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		<title>By: &#8220;New Ideas in Old Systems&#8221;, by Tim Kastelle &#124; Teepin&#39;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;New Ideas in Old Systems&#8221;, by Tim Kastelle &#124; Teepin&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://timkastelle.org/blog/2010/02/new-ideas-in-old-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-3878</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that&#039;s a reasonable way to say it Graham.</description>
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		<title>By: Graham Horton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Horton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

you write, &quot;I think that the big difference between the public and private sectors in innovation imperatives is not that the private sector has the profit motive, but rather that occasionally private firms go out of business.&quot;

I think the reason is simpler and more fundamental: 1) the intensity of innovation is proportional to the intensity of competition. 
2) The public sector has no competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>you write, &#8220;I think that the big difference between the public and private sectors in innovation imperatives is not that the private sector has the profit motive, but rather that occasionally private firms go out of business.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the reason is simpler and more fundamental: 1) the intensity of innovation is proportional to the intensity of competition.<br />
2) The public sector has no competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Institutional Innovation &#171; Complex Systems &#171; Innovation Leadership Network</title>
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		<dc:creator>Institutional Innovation &#171; Complex Systems &#171; Innovation Leadership Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://timkastelle.org/blog/2010/02/new-ideas-in-old-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-3746</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Berend.  I agree that the sunk investments play a huge role in the inability to react to threats that organisations often have.  It&#039;s part of what makes it such an enormously difficult problem to deal with!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Berend.  I agree that the sunk investments play a huge role in the inability to react to threats that organisations often have.  It&#8217;s part of what makes it such an enormously difficult problem to deal with!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very much for the stopping by and making a comment Mike.  Your clarification makes much more sense - if you had talked about it that way instead of as a disruption in the original post then I wouldn&#039;t have had anything to say about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much for the stopping by and making a comment Mike.  Your clarification makes much more sense &#8211; if you had talked about it that way instead of as a disruption in the original post then I wouldn&#8217;t have had anything to say about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Reggie - great to hear from you!  I hope that you&#039;re doing well.  Movie watching has definitely been down for me recently - a lot of my brain&#039;s cycle time has been taken up with thinking about the stuff here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Reggie &#8211; great to hear from you!  I hope that you&#8217;re doing well.  Movie watching has definitely been down for me recently &#8211; a lot of my brain&#8217;s cycle time has been taken up with thinking about the stuff here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Berend Jan Hilberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berend Jan Hilberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Tim. Having worked in media/newspaper biz for many years, I totally recognize the entrenched incumbent thinking you are describing here. The inability to challenge the fundamental &quot;truths&quot;, the orthodoxies of the business....  appalling! And boy, where they wrong!!! 

A side note: some similarities in the industries you are describing (printing, photography, newspapers) is that all three are highly capital intensive industries. Baked into the thinking of the execs, especially the CFO&#039;s, is the huge investments they have made in machinery and presses, often just recently, and how these need to be written off over the next umpteen years. The inability to think in terms of sunk costs is another factor here in overlooking disruptive innovation, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Tim. Having worked in media/newspaper biz for many years, I totally recognize the entrenched incumbent thinking you are describing here. The inability to challenge the fundamental &#8220;truths&#8221;, the orthodoxies of the business&#8230;.  appalling! And boy, where they wrong!!! </p>
<p>A side note: some similarities in the industries you are describing (printing, photography, newspapers) is that all three are highly capital intensive industries. Baked into the thinking of the execs, especially the CFO&#8217;s, is the huge investments they have made in machinery and presses, often just recently, and how these need to be written off over the next umpteen years. The inability to think in terms of sunk costs is another factor here in overlooking disruptive innovation, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J. Critelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael J. Critelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for commenting on my blog.  I am well aware of Christensen&#039;s work, and, in fact, he has done a case study on Pitney Bowes.  I was trying to make a different point than what you have attributed to me.  If I were going to discuss disruptive innovation, I would have referred to Andy Grove&#039;s book Only the Paranoid Survive, in which he tries to distinguish between real and false inflection points.  

We had real inflection points and disruptive innovation, including the rapid decline in our facsimile business and, in my judgment, the most profound change as a result of the Internet, the far greater knowledge our customers acquired relative to competitive offerings because of search engines like Google.  The real story of disruptive innovation with respect to the Internet was not online postage, but the rapid and significant increase in customer knowledge and power.

The reason online postage did not fit the disruptive innovation mode was that it would be inevitably held back, as it has been for over a decade, by the way postal and government officials see the world, which is different from private sector customers.  There are many innovations that should be disruptive, but are not, because government regulators or procurement officers stop them from coming into being or growing.  The disruptive innovative model cannot predict how political decisions will get made.

For example, I watched the whole move toward market liberalization in Europe stall because the German government, at the urging of the leadership of DeutschePost passed what eventually turned out to be an unlawful sector-specific minimum wage law that destroyed DeutschePost&#039;s two main competitors and invited retaliation in other EU countries.  The proposed law was dead on November 28, 2007, but with a handful of votes switching in the next week, it was enacted on December 7.

I would not characterize my successes or failures, and I had both, relative to distinguishing between real and false inflection points as &quot;lucky.&quot;  We had robust scenario planning and a very outside-in process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for commenting on my blog.  I am well aware of Christensen&#8217;s work, and, in fact, he has done a case study on Pitney Bowes.  I was trying to make a different point than what you have attributed to me.  If I were going to discuss disruptive innovation, I would have referred to Andy Grove&#8217;s book Only the Paranoid Survive, in which he tries to distinguish between real and false inflection points.  </p>
<p>We had real inflection points and disruptive innovation, including the rapid decline in our facsimile business and, in my judgment, the most profound change as a result of the Internet, the far greater knowledge our customers acquired relative to competitive offerings because of search engines like Google.  The real story of disruptive innovation with respect to the Internet was not online postage, but the rapid and significant increase in customer knowledge and power.</p>
<p>The reason online postage did not fit the disruptive innovation mode was that it would be inevitably held back, as it has been for over a decade, by the way postal and government officials see the world, which is different from private sector customers.  There are many innovations that should be disruptive, but are not, because government regulators or procurement officers stop them from coming into being or growing.  The disruptive innovative model cannot predict how political decisions will get made.</p>
<p>For example, I watched the whole move toward market liberalization in Europe stall because the German government, at the urging of the leadership of DeutschePost passed what eventually turned out to be an unlawful sector-specific minimum wage law that destroyed DeutschePost&#8217;s two main competitors and invited retaliation in other EU countries.  The proposed law was dead on November 28, 2007, but with a handful of votes switching in the next week, it was enacted on December 7.</p>
<p>I would not characterize my successes or failures, and I had both, relative to distinguishing between real and false inflection points as &#8220;lucky.&#8221;  We had robust scenario planning and a very outside-in process.</p>
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		<title>By: Reggie Ramirez</title>
		<link>http://timkastelle.org/blog/2010/02/new-ideas-in-old-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-3738</link>
		<dc:creator>Reggie Ramirez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for being off topic here, Tim. Just wanted to compliment you on this fascinating blog and all these interesting thoughts! I think I&#039;ll try and catch up with some of them. Seems like you have a lot of interesting stuff going on; hope you have time to watch some good movies as well. Finland sends it&#039;s greetings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for being off topic here, Tim. Just wanted to compliment you on this fascinating blog and all these interesting thoughts! I think I&#8217;ll try and catch up with some of them. Seems like you have a lot of interesting stuff going on; hope you have time to watch some good movies as well. Finland sends it&#8217;s greetings!</p>
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